{"id":168,"date":"2016-05-16T17:50:09","date_gmt":"2016-05-16T16:50:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sedirelyon.fr\/lesdiaconessesdurocher\/?page_id=168"},"modified":"2016-05-16T17:50:09","modified_gmt":"2016-05-16T16:50:09","slug":"reaction-de-luc-forestier","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/sedirelyon.fr\/lesdiaconessesdurocher\/diaconat-2016\/reaction-de-luc-forestier\/","title":{"rendered":"r\u00e9action de Luc Forestier"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Diaconat f\u00e9minin\u2009: \u00ab\u00a0La question sera celle du statut d\u2019une commission\u00a0sur le sujet\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Recueilli par Marie Malzac, le 13\/05\/2016 \u00e0 16h05<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Forestier, pr\u00eatre de l\u2019Oratoire, directeur de l\u2019Institut d\u2019\u00e9tudes religieuses de l\u2019Institut catholique de Paris<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Le dossier est ancien, puisqu\u2019on retrouve les diaconesses dans la Premi\u00e8re \u00e9p\u00eetre aux Romains. \u00c0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, elles exer\u00e7aient un service tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rent de ce que font les diacres permanents aujourd\u2019hui, de m\u00eame que les diacres du Nouveau Testament ont des attributions qui ne sont pas du tout les m\u00eames qu\u2019autrefois.<\/p>\n<p>Ce minist\u00e8re a beaucoup \u00e9volu\u00e9, si bien que lorsque le Concile Vatican\u00a0II a d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de permettre aux \u00c9glises de r\u00e9introduire le diaconat permanent, les textes ont parl\u00e9 de restauration mais aussi d\u2019instauration. Le d\u00e9bat autour des racines historiques de cette institution ne r\u00e8gle donc pas la question. Veut-on restaurer une pratique ancienne ou aller au-del\u00e0\u2009?<\/p>\n<p>&gt;\u00a0A lire\u2009: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.la-croix.com\/Religion\/Pape\/Le-pape-autorise-la-reflexion-sur-les-femmes-diacres-2016-05-13-1200759898\">Le pape autorise la r\u00e9flexion sur les femmes diacres<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Les conf\u00e9rences \u00e9piscopales doivent \u00eatre pleinement int\u00e9gr\u00e9es \u00e0 la r\u00e9flexion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>En 2003, la Commission th\u00e9ologique internationale s\u2019est d\u00e9j\u00e0 pench\u00e9e sur la question du diaconat f\u00e9minin. Si une commission est \u00e0 nouveau mise en place, il ne faut donc pas qu\u2019elle soit purement historique. La question de son statut sera centrale, et le risque majeur est qu\u2019elle soit un \u00ab\u00a0comit\u00e9 Th\u00e9odule\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>La d\u00e9cision de permettre aux femmes d\u2019acc\u00e9der au diaconat est pastorale, car possible th\u00e9ologiquement, et doit \u00eatre le fruit \u00e0 la fois de la coll\u00e9gialit\u00e9 \u00e9piscopale et de la synodalit\u00e9 de l\u2019\u00c9glise. Les conf\u00e9rences \u00e9piscopales doivent \u00eatre pleinement int\u00e9gr\u00e9es \u00e0 la r\u00e9flexion car les situations varient \u00e9norm\u00e9ment d\u2019un pays \u00e0 l\u2019autre.<\/p>\n<p>La nouvelle fa\u00e7on de gouverner l\u2019\u00c9glise du pape Fran\u00e7ois, l\u2019impulsion qu\u2019il veut donner pour un exercice du magist\u00e8re d\u00e9centralis\u00e9 pourraient permettre cela.<\/p>\n<p>En 2009, Beno\u00eet\u00a0XVI a donn\u00e9 une clarification, dissociant d\u2019une part les minist\u00e8res du presbyt\u00e9rat et de l\u2019\u00e9piscopat, de l\u2019autre le diaconat, ce qui pourrait \u00e9galement ouvrir une porte. Il faut toutefois \u00eatre vigilant, car cette \u00ab\u00a0cl\u00e9ricalisation\u00a0\u00bb des femmes n\u2019est pas le seul moyen de donner davantage de pouvoir aux femmes dans l\u2019\u00c9glise, ce que le pape appelle r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement de ses v\u0153ux. Ce sont m\u00eame deux questions distinctes, quoique corr\u00e9l\u00e9es. Quelles seraient les modalit\u00e9s de ce minist\u00e8re confi\u00e9 aux femmes\u2009? Comment s\u2019appliqueraient-elles selon les lieux\u2009? Cette r\u00e9flexion est tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressante, mais il ne faut pas pour autant laisser de c\u00f4t\u00e9 celle sur les moyens de permettre aux femmes d\u2019acc\u00e9der \u00e0 davantage de responsabilit\u00e9s eccl\u00e9siales.\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Recueilli par Marie Malzac<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Diaconat f\u00e9minin\u2009: \u00ab\u00a0La question sera celle du statut d\u2019une commission\u00a0sur le sujet\u00a0\u00bb Recueilli par Marie Malzac, le 13\/05\/2016 \u00e0 16h05 \u00a0Forestier, pr\u00eatre de l\u2019Oratoire, directeur de l\u2019Institut d\u2019\u00e9tudes religieuses de l\u2019Institut catholique de Paris \u00ab\u00a0Le dossier est ancien, puisqu\u2019on retrouve les diaconesses dans la Premi\u00e8re \u00e9p\u00eetre aux Romains. \u00c0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, elles exer\u00e7aient un service tr\u00e8s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/sedirelyon.fr\/lesdiaconessesdurocher\/diaconat-2016\/reaction-de-luc-forestier\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> de &laquo;&nbsp;r\u00e9action de Luc Forestier&nbsp;&raquo;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":151,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-168","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>r\u00e9action de Luc Forestier - Les Diaconesses du Rocher<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sedirelyon.fr\/lesdiaconessesdurocher\/diaconat-2016\/reaction-de-luc-forestier\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"r\u00e9action de Luc Forestier - Les Diaconesses du Rocher\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Diaconat f\u00e9minin\u2009: \u00ab\u00a0La question sera celle du statut d\u2019une commission\u00a0sur le sujet\u00a0\u00bb Recueilli par Marie Malzac, le 13\/05\/2016 \u00e0 16h05 \u00a0Forestier, pr\u00eatre de l\u2019Oratoire, directeur de l\u2019Institut d\u2019\u00e9tudes religieuses de l\u2019Institut catholique de Paris \u00ab\u00a0Le dossier est ancien, puisqu\u2019on retrouve les diaconesses dans la Premi\u00e8re \u00e9p\u00eetre aux Romains. \u00c0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, elles exer\u00e7aient un service tr\u00e8s &hellip; 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